Hi,

I have only just started doing this again after a long break where I felt I should use shampoo and conditioner, (dam those ads!) I then realised that my hair really can't cope with shampoo too well. :shakehead: I do have to wash my hair everyday as its very fine and to be frank, I look damm scary when I wake up in the morning and MUST wash my hair to get it to look human! :chuckle: so I have decided to go back to conditioner only washing.
The basics are:
Wet your hair,(hair should be free of silicones, just make sure you clarify before the first time you do it)
Apply good amount of silicone free conditioner,
Massage it around just like you do when you shampoo,
leave it on to finish its work while you do all the other stuff in the shower,
Rinse, rinse and rinse.
Conditioners have a very gentle surfactant in them called ceteryl alcohol (sounds nasty but its actually pretty moisturising)
Some people report that you can go longer between washings as after a while your scalp realises that it is not getting stripped by shampoo so your hair does not get greasy so quickly, and of course you keep all that lovely moisture in the ends where its needed.
Its a thing I picked up through reading forums for people with curly hair, mine is more wavy than curly but it helped me enormously, I only went off it for a while when I fell under the spell of the ads! :shakehead:
If anyone wants more info on how to do it, which conditioners to use etc, let me know!

What conditioner are using now Gilly?

I am using (don't laugh!) Aldi 5 stars family conditioner, its great for it as its nice and thin and silicone free, oh also only cost $2 for a litre!!
I find I can use any that is cone free but usually end up with 5 stars or Pears as they are also cone free but you need the "normal or clarifying" ones, the trick is to pick ones that are NOT volumising.
Have you tried it before emmy?

No, I don't think I want to either :redcheeks: I was just curious as to what conditioner you are using!
I couldn't live without my shampoo :hugs:

the aldi conditioner is a great detangler :)

ishtar uses this method [i think] but she hasn't been on for a while , i think her thread was something like "would you not wash your hair for 6 weeks" can anyone help me further :redcheeks:

I was worried about my hair not feeling "clean" but if its done right it does a great job!
I am a hair washing fanatic but it was killing my hair and now I am trying to grow it, I know I have got to take more care of it.
I love the fact that it brings out my waves and it looks healthy rather than a bit parched no matter what I tried to do with it!

the aldi conditioner is a great detangler :)

ishtar uses this method [i think] but she hasn't been on for a while , i think her thread was something like "would you not wash your hair for 6 weeks" can anyone help me further :redcheeks:

i am still looking for it .................:rollthoseeyes::chuckle:

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this is what she put up :)

I'm on there too!! :glee:
I've got the same avatar :clapping:

the aldi conditioner is a great detangler :)

ishtar uses this method [i think] but she hasn't been on for a while , i think her thread was something like "would you not wash your hair for 6 weeks" can anyone help me further :redcheeks:

Here it is :waving:

http://forum.adorebeauty.com.au/showthread.php?t=693

I must use shampoo - my shampoo's I use are pretty gentle in comparison to some. I'm actually going to use Alchemy lemongrass shampoo and jojoba light conditioner - I've bought the small size to start when I move, but after that Im quite keen to try beauty and bees shampoo bar and apple cider rinse.

If conditioning only works for you and your hair is in top condition go for it. I noticed when I went away on a boat and didn't wash my hair at all and swam everyday and made sure I just regularly combed/brushed it it coped fine. My scalp was in great condition - I realised then that for me overloading it with product was no good. Keep it simple.

That was interesting, I would have loved to read the Marie Claire article, I wonder if these people were genuinly NOT washing as in not wetting at all or were they using conditioner to "wash" with? As I said before, there is a very mild surfactant in the conditioner so it will "clean" your hair.
I will still be doing my hair everyday as I personally like the feeling of water through my hair, makes me feel much better!:chuckle:

I must use shampoo - my shampoo's I use are pretty gentle in comparison to some. I'm actually going to use Alchemy lemongrass shampoo and jojoba light conditioner - I've bought the small size to start when I move, but after that Im quite keen to try beauty and bees shampoo bar and apple cider rinse.

If conditioning only works for you and your hair is in top condition go for it. I noticed when I went away on a boat and didn't wash my hair at all and swam everyday and made sure I just regularly combed/brushed it it coped fine. My scalp was in great condition - I realised then that for me overloading it with product was no good. Keep it simple.

That is very true Alice - I use natural products where I can - shampoo and conditioner - thats it! I don't use styling products or leave in's anymore.

I have just done mine, I actually used Pears conditioner as it was in the shower :shakehead:
My hair was squeaky clean and is now feeling pretty happy.
As you have said, its each to their own here, if it works great, if not no problem.
Its worth a try, and I just thought it would be good to be aware this can be done.

Thanks Gilly :hugs:

I actually wasn't aware this could be done, so thank you for sharing!

I'm can't find the point anywhere - why leave out the shampoo?

Thanks Gilly :hugs:

I actually wasn't aware this could be done, so thank you for sharing!

Me Tooooo! :waving:

Here it is :waving:

http://forum.adorebeauty.com.au/showthread.php?t=693

:worship::clapping: :hugs:

I'm can't find the point anywhere - why leave out the shampoo?


Its basically the fact that most shampoo's strip the hair way too much, and it can make the hair dry and more prone to damage and of course colours fade quicker.
Using just conditioner to "wash" with preserves the moisture while still cleaning the hair and again colours last longer, I know if I was colouring my hair I would want it to last as long as possible.

I hope that makes it a bit clearer! :hugs:

Its basically the fact that most shampoo's strip the hair way too much, and it can make the hair dry and more prone to damage and of course colours fade quicker.
Using just conditioner to "wash" with preserves the moisture while still cleaning the hair and again colours last longer, I know if I was colouring my hair I would want it to last as long as possible.

I hope that makes it a bit clearer! :hugs:

What about natural shampoo? Whats your opinion on that? I currently use Natural Instincts and am next going to buy Alchemy - I find these to be very gentle and non-stripping.

Cheers Gilly, that helps a bit! :D

I was thinking why doesn't she want clean hair..?

I haven't noticed any drying with my shampoo luckily. I'm using Terax, and Perfect Potion before that..

What about natural shampoo? Whats your opinion on that? I currently use Natural Instincts and am next going to buy Alchemy - I find these to be very gentle and non-stripping.

I have tried them all and while they work well for a while I always notice that I am having to use heavier conditioners to combat the dryness.

I guess my hair is just fragile and picky :shakehead:

Cheers Gilly, that helps a bit! :D

I was thinking why doesn't she want clean hair..?

I haven't noticed any drying with my shampoo luckily. I'm using Terax, and Perfect Potion before that..

Of course I want clean hair!! :chuckle: :hugs:

I love Terax but its a bit expensive to use as a washing conditioner but I do a deep treatment with it now and again, my hair loves it :clapping:

Correct me if i'm wrong but i think that if your not using a shampoo you may aswell not be using anything because the conditioner can't get into the hair follicle and do is job.

Shampoo opens up the follicle so the conditioner can get in and work and then close the follicle.

So you need to purchase an extra gentle shampoo so it doesn't strip your hair and dry it out.

Yeah I agree PP, if that is the effect, it is probably the incorrect shampoo being used.

Yeah I agree PP, if that is the effect, it is probably the incorrect shampoo being used.

Exactly!!!

Correct me if i'm wrong but i think that if your not using a shampoo you may aswell not be using anything because the conditioner can't get into the hair follicle and do is job.

Shampoo opens up the follicle so the conditioner can get in and work and then close the follicle.

So you need to purchase an extra gentle shampoo so it doesn't strip your hair and dry it out.

Cone-free, cheap conditioners have smaller amounts of cleansers than shampoo, therefore you're still opening the cuticles, but not as much. Just enough to get in there and do a gentle cleanse. You can follow up with a rich conditioner to smooth the cuticles.

There are so many washing methods out there, you just have to find the right one for you. Some people use a shampoo bar followed by a vinegar rinse, others do CWC (condition the length, wash the scalp, rinse, condition all over). It took me awhile to get my head around them all and I still get confused. :rollthoseeyes:

Cone-free, cheap conditioners have smaller amounts of cleansers than shampoo, therefore you're still opening the cuticles, but not as much. Just enough to get in there and do a gentle cleanse. You can follow up with a rich conditioner to smooth the cuticles.

There are so many washing methods out there, you just have to find the right one for you. Some people use a shampoo bar followed by a vinegar rinse, others do CWC (condition the length, wash the scalp, rinse, condition all over). It took me awhile to get my head around them all and I still get confused. :rollthoseeyes:

I stand corrected :waving:

Are you a hairdresser??

I stand corrected :waving:

Are you a hairdresser??

Hi PP! :waving:

I used to be. :redcheeks: Is it that obvious? :chuckle:

Hi PP! :waving:

I used to be. :redcheeks: Is it that obvious? :chuckle:

Yeah it was a little obvious. :chuckle:

There is a scary amount of different ways to wash your hair apart from the "normal" way, I would never have even thought about ditching shampoo before reading all the great info on LHC, most is cross referenced so its pretty well tried and tested. :typing:
I used to use anything on my hair from cheap supermarket brands to really high end stuff to try and sort out my dry parched hair but all I needed to do was clarify occasionally to get the gunk that had built up on my hair off then the stuff would work again!
Now I am open to trying any method that will work! :clapping:

I'm a lather rinse repeat girl and then a clarifying shampoo every so often and a treatment 1-2 times a week depending on time and my hair condition

Where does one find a clarifying shampoo? I would like to try this condidtioner only thing. I think my hair might like it!

Try Price Attack VeeE. I think Joico does a good 'chelating' one.

Where does one find a clarifying shampoo? I would like to try this condidtioner only thing. I think my hair might like it!

Most of the ranges do a clarifying one, I used to use Pantene's one, it stripped everything off :chuckle:

Which conditioner are you going to use? Let me know as it can be a bit of a minefield finding the right one!
Check the ingredients for anything ending in "cone", any of those in there will make me walk away from it! :chuckle:
I have a list that I got from LHC which listed all the different types of silicones, it was amazing, all these things that are hard to pronounce :chuckle:

I was going to use Terax. Would that be okay?

I was going to use Terax. Would that be okay?

Terax might be a bit too rich and expensive as a CO one, is that what you mean? Terax is teh awesome though!

i think u r meant to use a cheapie for the wash portion & then u can use a better conditioner for the condition bit , but remember it will take a bit to get your hair used to the change just like when u cut down the frequency of washing

I was going to use Terax. Would that be okay?

Terax would be lovely to use as a CO but I could not afford to buy it in bulk :chuckle:

Most people use really cheap conditioners like Pears which can be bought for a few dollars, but you can always put some Terax on the ends as a treat. :clapping:

Well I use Terax anyway so... do you just condition once?

Well I use Terax anyway so... do you just condition once?

Let me know how u like it V. I am thinking of doing it too but ill let u be the guinea pig :chuckle:

I was going to use Terax. Would that be okay?

If you don't have a problem with going through a tube a bit quicker then go for it!

If you try it don't forget to treat it like a shampoo, give it a reall good working in then leave it until the end of your shower before you rinse it really well.

I don't dare try to do a wash with Terax, I know I'm going to like it too much!! :shakehead:

Is just Pears normal for me today, my hair is squeaky clean, I have run out now though so will have to move on to Inecto coconut conditioner, maybe I could use up my last bit of Terax though :whistle:

Let us know how it goes won't you VeeE!

Okay just to get this clear... I bought some Clarifying 'poo on my lunch break. Now- How often should I clarify? Once a week? Once every 2 weeks? Also, when I am using the conditioner only do I use more than I normally would? How much should I be using for slightly shorter than shoulder length hair?
If I use hairsrpay (not much) will the conditioner be sufficient?

Sorry about all the q's but I want to get it right?

Okay- never mind. I just re-read your first post and that explains it pretty well, except for how often to clarify?

Okay- never mind. I just re-read your first post and that explains it pretty well, except for how often to clarify?

Hi VeeE
You only really need to clarify when you feel like it, if you are not using silicones or other products you should not have a build up problem, I plan on doing it if my hair stops feeling nice, a quick shampoo and all is well again but you have saved yourself all the drying effects of shampooing so once in a while won't hurt!
Regarding the hairspray, it should brush out easy enough, I usually put a bit on my fringe and it copes with that fine!
What conditioner are you going to use?
When are you going to do it?
Any more questions just ask away! :hugs:

I'm going to do it tomorrow. :champagne:

Have you checked the ingredients on the shampoo and your conditioner? I doubt it has silicones in it but I get paranoid :chuckle:

I can't wait to hear what you think of this way of washing! :glee:

No I asked the guy for a clarifying shampoo that would remove all silicones so I am safe. I got Redken Hair Cleansing Creme.

No I asked the guy for a clarifying shampoo that would remove all silicones so I am safe. I got Redken Hair Cleansing Creme.

Which conditioner did you decide to use?
Are you going to condition again at the end?
I am going to have a go with my Terax tomorrow, I just know I'm going to regret it :shakehead:

I'm going to use Terax. What do you mean again at the end? I will condition it after clarifying if that's what you mean?

I'm going to use Terax. What do you mean again at the end? I will condition it after clarifying if that's what you mean?

Some people who have seriously dry hair problems sometimes like to use a richer (silicone free) conditioner AFTER they have "washed" with the cheaper thinner conditioner, it gives an extra hit of moisture, thats what I am going to do tomorrow :glee:

Would Terax alone be okay?

I did post an answer but I think it got eaten! :chuckle:

Personally I would not use the Terax to "wash" with as its very rich and pretty thick, most people myself included, use a really cheapo runny conditioner to "wash" with then put on a richer one like Terax if they feel their hair needs the extra moisture.

I am just too mean to use Terax all the time :chuckle:, I am going to order another tube of it soon as I really do love it but it will only be as a "final" conditioner.

Do you have any other cone free conditioners you could try?

Hmmm, I don't know. I only have one conditioner right now. Maybe this is too hard! :chuckle:

Hmmm, I don't know. I only have one conditioner right now. Maybe this is too hard! :chuckle:

:chuckle::chuckle:

Just try it with the Terax, I'm sure it will be fine, it may be a bit too heavy but there is only one way to find out!!

Be sure to let us know how it turned out won't you! :typing:

you've driven me to now go invest in a fabulous conditioner and chuck all the products !

i said something similar in an earlier post , i think u need a fair whack of conditioner to 'wash' i think that is why it's best to use a cheapie & then condition with terax

i use my clarifying shampoo once a fortnight but not for about the first 4 weeks if i have had a colour done :)

i said something similar in an earlier post , i think u need a fair whack of conditioner to 'wash' i think that is why it's best to use a cheapie & then condition with terax

i use my clarifying shampoo once a fortnight but not for about the first 4 weeks if i have had a colour done :)

If you adopt the conditioner way of washing your colour will last longer :glee:

gracious, sorry but I am an evil enabler!!!!! :whipcrack::chuckle::chuckle:

I need to buy anothe bottle of conditioner but after the wonderful conversations with Badger Bill I think I will give the Sukin conditioner a go for washing with as it has no nasties at all rather than all the synthetic stuff that we find everywhere :shakehead:

If you adopt the conditioner way of washing your colour will last longer :glee:

gracious, sorry but I am an evil enabler!!!!! :whipcrack::chuckle::chuckle:

I need to buy anothe bottle of conditioner but after the wonderful conversations with Badger Bill I think I will give the Sukin conditioner a go for washing with as it has no nasties at all rather than all the synthetic stuff that we find everywhere :shakehead:

:clapping: My local chemist has Sukin!!!!!!! WOO HOO! So this one will be good for the washing component?

:clapping: My local chemist has Sukin!!!!!!! WOO HOO! So this one will be good for the washing component?

It looks fine to me :clapping:
I liked it when I used it with the shampoo, its great that you can get it in a huge litre size, it will be nice to get rid of all the bottles I have in my shower, at the last count I think I had 8 bottles of shampoo, conditioner and shower gels :redcheeks::chuckle:
Hubby has a bottle of shampoo and a shower gel:chuckle:

Hi,

I have only just started doing this again after a long break where I felt I should use shampoo and conditioner, (dam those ads!) I then realised that my hair really can't cope with shampoo too well. :shakehead: I do have to wash my hair everyday as its very fine and to be frank, I look damm scary when I wake up in the morning and MUST wash my hair to get it to look human! :chuckle: so I have decided to go back to conditioner only washing.
The basics are:
Wet your hair,(hair should be free of silicones, just make sure you clarify before the first time you do it)
Apply good amount of silicone free conditioner,
Massage it around just like you do when you shampoo,
leave it on to finish its work while you do all the other stuff in the shower,
Rinse, rinse and rinse.
Conditioners have a very gentle surfactant in them called ceteryl alcohol (sounds nasty but its actually pretty moisturising)
Some people report that you can go longer between washings as after a while your scalp realises that it is not getting stripped by shampoo so your hair does not get greasy so quickly, and of course you keep all that lovely moisture in the ends where its needed.
Its a thing I picked up through reading forums for people with curly hair, mine is more wavy than curly but it helped me enormously, I only went off it for a while when I fell under the spell of the ads! :shakehead:
If anyone wants more info on how to do it, which conditioners to use etc, let me know!

Hi Gilly *says the secret code word* Ficcare;)

:chuckle::waving::clapping:

Well, in the intrests of research :whistle: I tried the Sukin conditioner for "washing" with, it is quite a bit thicker than the normal types I have been using so I found I had to use roughly double the amount I normally use (my hair is just touching the bottom of my neck/ top of back) I did the usual massage, left it on for the rest of my shower then rinsed and massaged some more, I did have to massage a bit longer to make sure I got it all out as if I leave any on my scalp I itch!!

My hair was squeaky clean! :glee:

I then put a bit of Terax on the ends as a treat.

I have happy hair :glee::glee:

Excellent! I just bought the Sukin. I will be clarifying tonight and we'll see how I go!

Hi Gilly *says the secret code word* Ficcare;)

:chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

Just did it! I have straightened my hair (finally!) and my hair is soooooo soft!! We'll see if it gives me two days though...

Just did it! I have straightened my hair (finally!) and my hair is soooooo soft!! We'll see if it gives me two days though...

YAY!! I'm glad you like the results so far :glee:

It may take a while before you can increase the time between washings as it will take a while for the scalp to realise that its not getting stripped all the time.

Did you get the "squeak"? :chuckle:

Yes, the squeak disturbed me slightly :chuckle:

But at least you know it DID clean your hair :glee:

Yeah, there's no doubt of that!

So Vee, all you did was wash your hair with conditioner... and left it for a few mins and rinsed?

I love it as its so easy to do and its much better for your hair :clapping:

So Vee, all you did was wash your hair with conditioner... and left it for a few mins and rinsed?

Yes I used a clarifying wash and then used the conditioner as I would a shampoo. From now on I would only use the conditioner though.

Wow you are so brave

i would love to try it out but am worried about my fine , limp hair & also like Vee ,having to wait for my hair to adjust sux

Oh yay V let us know how it goes with time.

I used Inecto coconut conditioner to wash with today, then a tiny bit of MooGoo conditioner on the ends, I am happy with how my hair looks although I think I will always do it daily as my hair is so fine it just goes feral looking overnight and sticks out in all directions!

Fusspot, I would not worry about your fine hair, mine is so fine its not funny but as long as I don't use a conditoner that is too thick I don't have a problem with it, some people even report having more bounce and body once they have gone over to this type of washing.
Go on Fuss, have a go! You never know, you might like it :chuckle:

Squeaks are good or bad? My hair squeaks alot.

Mine does too loola, but i like it "squeaky"clean, plus the thickness of it makes it more evident maybe. I don't think it is good or bad, its just a preference as to how you like the clean hair feel I guess. Is this even making any sense..... hehe :chuckle: I can't believe I'm commenting on the "squeak" of my clean hair :chuckle:

I'm a bit lost, but I think I am the same - have have thick hair and a lot of it and do take lotsa care of it, the squeak is oddly satisfying !

Yep same.

I think the "squeak" is a good indicator of your hair being clean, I find it satisfying to get a squeak when I use something to clean my hair that most hairdressers say won't work :chuckle:

What the hell is this "squeak" about? :chuckle:
I have no idea what's going on....:chuckle:

Watch out for "squeaky" hair it can mean it's been over dried

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok, yeah I never here that then :chuckle:

Watch out for "squeaky" hair it can mean it's been over dried

Well said!
Too much "squeak" is not good but I like to know my hair is clean! :whistle:

Yeah I think my hair is the complete opposite of that. But at the same time, it's been bleached and colored really bad as well.

My hair definitely isn't dry.

Mine is oily and dry

I get squeaky hair but my hair is in no way dry.

I just started conditioner-only washing a couple of weeks ago :)
The first few times did not work too well because I was using Kevin Murphy products. I LOVE his styling products, esp. Hair Resort, but his treatment products are not as good and left my hair very dry and tangled.
His 'Luxury' conditioner did nothing to condition my hair, so I reverted back to Pantene (I know it's bad!!), with the KM Luxury Leave-in conditioner, KM Body Guard, Kerastase Oleo Relax Serum and Terax Life Drops (which I got in a sample, and made my hair amazingly soft and smooth so I am definitely going to purchase).
I don't know about the effects so far because I have either been using styling products (KM Hair Resort & Easy Rider), blowdrying or straightening. I have to say that my hair definitely hasn't suffered from not shampooing.
I will keep everyone updated on the results :)

I used to do this but only because sometimes we wouldn't have shampoo :chuckle:
I didn't realise there was a whole thing for it.

When i told my bestfriend (hairdresser) about the whole conditioner only washing her eyes nearly rolled out of her head she was that shocked!! She's not a fan

When i told my bestfriend (hairdresser) about the whole conditioner only washing her eyes nearly rolled out of her head she was that shocked!! She's not a fan

I always get the same reaction too! I find though once I explain about the mild surfactant they do understand it a bit more but I still think they are disapointed that they won't be able to sell you shampoo :chuckle:

I also hate the fact that whenever I have asked a hairdresser for a silicone free conditioner they always hand me one that is full of the stuff! Don't they read labels? :shakehead: surely if I can recognise them a professional should know what to look for!:explode:

Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now :chuckle:

I always get the same reaction too! I find though once I explain about the mild surfactant they do understand it a bit more but I still think they are disapointed that they won't be able to sell you shampoo :chuckle:

I also hate the fact that whenever I have asked a hairdresser for a silicone free conditioner they always hand me one that is full of the stuff! Don't they read labels? :shakehead: surely if I can recognise them a professional should know what to look for!:explode:

Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now :chuckle:

I know I've been told this soooo many times but I never remember, what's so bad with the silicone hair products again? :whistle:

:hugs:I know I've been told this soooo many times but I never remember, what's so bad with the silicone hair products again? :whistle:

Silicones are great at making hair lovely and smooth but they do tend to "seal" the hair so unless you get it all off, you hair can't actually grab any moisture so it gets dryer and dryer, this is what happened to my hair before I learnt about them, I would just keep looking for more intensive conditioners and deep treatments to sort out the dryness when all I really needed to do was to clarify to get all the gunk off! :redcheeks:

They also can mask damage so if you have been using then for a long time, (like I was) then stop and get rid of them, you may find that your hair looks worse! But its just the fact that the hair is not coated anymore.

I hope this explains things a bit better

Ohhhhh ok, thanks Gilly :waving:

Ohhhhh ok, thanks Gilly :waving:
Your welcome :hugs:

I just did another wash. I firstly have to say how much I love the Sukin conditioner. It smells like my favorite smell in the world- yet I don't know what it is haha.

I just blowdried and my hair and it feels a little heavy. I know my hair is adjusing, but yeah. It's soft and certainly clean though- :clapping:

Fruit Tingles??

I see Sukin at so many places, it's great!

No it's like vanilla-y and earth-y, but not sweet. I can't put my finger on it!

I want to get this conditioner now! :redcheeks:

it is so fruit tingles , took me ages to figure it out , the cleanser really does anyway :chuckle::whistle:

How's it going VeeE?

How's it going VeeE?

Really well. I did another 'wash' last night. I was a little concerned as my hair felt quite greasy last night and I really wanted to shampoo it :chuckle:. I didn't though and my hair is so clean and soft!!! Not heavy like the other day, so either my hair has gotten used to it or I rinsed better. I am happy today- it feels like my normal washed hair, but more hydrated. YAY!

So you rec that conditoner VeeE? :whistle:

So you rec that conditoner VeeE? :whistle:

Yep, it's great!

I'm really pleased you are liking it VeeE :glee:

I told you it was good :clapping:
My hair is loving it, I have got big fat curls now where it was looking a bit parched on the ends, I wonder if we can anyone else to have a go :whistle:

I reckon everyone should try it! It's awesome. You should have seen how well behaved my hair was this morning!

i will , though not sure when , hey , next week i will , someone remind me :whistle::chuckle::whipcrack:

When i told my bestfriend (hairdresser) about the whole conditioner only washing her eyes nearly rolled out of her head she was that shocked!! She's not a fan

My h/d ddint shampoo my hair last night after colouring as she said the colour has mild sulphates in it and i hadnt washed since 2 days before my appointment in apprehencian that they would, but today its not greasy at all and its almost day 4, so i might give this a go.

Im going to try this from now on. Im a little scared I might crack though

There is no way i could do this I don't reckon. I have a clean hair obsession.... not that I'm saying its not clean if you do the conditioner only thing, I just can't see my sticking to it.

This is what I reckon - I might have to remove all shampoos from my shower, out of sight, out of mind :chuckle:

Yeah I just can't do it - plus what I do now I get a fantastic result, if it ain't broke, why fix it!

I couldn't cos I love my terax latte shampoo :D

Haha true, I want to marry my Bain Satin.

Yeah, see I have never loved a shampoo.

D'you know what else is cool? The excema on the nape of my neck is GONZO!

That's awesome Veee!

Bain Satin is my true love shampoo. I think my hair is far too thick and crazy to be able to cope without it.

Yeah, see I have never loved a shampoo.

D'you know what else is cool? The excema on the nape of my neck is GONZO!

Wow thats fab!!!!!!!! Bonus!

I love Kerastase!!!!! My hair always looks so shiny.

Kerastase is GOD

I'm a kerastase fan too, particlarly the oleo serum in the little glass orange bottle.... awesome stuff!
Great news re excema Vee!!

THe Oleo Serum is great stuff, I use it everytime I wash.

You do realise that you CAN still shampoo if you want don't you? :redcheeks:

Its perfectly ok if you just want to cut down on the shampoo, just do the conditioner wash inbetween, that way you will still give your hair a break from normal shampoo on the days you just use conditoner.

There are no hard and fast rules for washing your hair, just do what works best for you and your hair.

I am probably going to shampoo every 7-10 days as I "wash" everyday so this is really giving my hair a break, which it seems to be liking.:clapping:

That is great news about your nec VeeE, :champagne: just shows that your shampoo was too harsh for your skin in that area.

You do realise that you CAN still shampoo if you want don't you? :redcheeks:

Its perfectly ok if you just want to cut down on the shampoo, just do the conditioner wash inbetween, that way you will still give your hair a break from normal shampoo on the days you just use conditoner.

There are no hard and fast rules for washing your hair, just do what works best for you and your hair.

I am probably going to shampoo every 7-10 days as I "wash" everyday so this is really giving my hair a break, which it seems to be liking.:clapping:

That is great news about your nec VeeE, :champagne: just shows that your shampoo was too harsh for your skin in that area.

Oh really? Well then technically I already do this then. I only ever use shampoo like once a week. The rest is just conditoner. I thought you meant to totally not use shampoo at all.
Yeah I already do this! Didn't realize there was a whole theory behind it! :chuckle:

Oh really? Well then technically I already do this then. I only ever use shampoo like once a week. The rest is just conditoner. I thought you meant to totally not use shampoo at all.
Yeah I already do this! Didn't realize there was a whole theory behind it! :chuckle:

There is a lot of people who NEVER use shampoo and do this method all the time and there are some who occasionally use shampoo, it really is a question of what works best for you.

I figure that life is too short to beat yourself up over silly things like "am I doing this the right way" so I just do what works :glee: its just nice to be aware of alternatives that preserve colour or make your hair less dry etc :champagne:

THe Oleo Serum is great stuff, I use it everytime I wash.

Sorry to go a bit off topic but tell me more!

I use the Bain Satin range and the Age Recharge deep conditioning masque, whenever my hair gets a bit stressed and starts falling out this sorts it out.

THis is lovely - it comes in 2 types - one is designed for more coarser type hairm the other just "normal" - unlike ALOT of serums I have tried - this doesn't leave any residue or greasiness or weigh it down.

I use this when my hair is wet AND dry - what I do is after I've washed my hair about a 10c piece of it and work it through. I also use the Chroma Reflect leave in and Ciment Thermique with this and mox it and apply it at once (I only use a small line of each). The effect of using it whilst it's wet really helps with frizzy and a silkiness and shine whether its straight, wavy or curly, but even more so when it's straight as this naturally look shiner anyway and this gives it a real "just walked out of a salon" look when you're at home.

When my hair is dry and styled I will fininsh with the teenist amount of the Oleo again over my hair, starting from the bottoms, I also have Kerastase cream that is nice to finish off.

Sounds unreal!

This has been a constant repurchase for ages now - I have tried the one for thicker hair but actually found it no different for me than the normal one which also so comes in a bigger bottle so I get that hehe. It's lasts me a good - 4 months maybe?

You too can have salon hair, every day *hair flip*

Kerastase is GOD

A tiny amount does goes a long way. I also like Kerastase Age Recharge - great treatment.

This has been a constant repurchase for ages now - I have tried the one for thicker hair but actually found it no different for me than the normal one which also so comes in a bigger bottle so I get that hehe. It's lasts me a good - 4 months maybe?

You too can have salon hair, every day *hair flip*

Same same and same!! Awesome stuff! Agree too loola not much difference between the two but the normal one is better value for money. The one in the little bottle (I have that one currently as my HD had sold out of the other) doesn't last very long.

Yeah and I didn notice a difference and I have crazy a$$ hair.

Mine's crazy unless i blowdry or straighten it. So annoying out of control hair

I know! I have to have some African in me somewhere.

Its weird isn't it. Most people wouldn't even know cause my hair is always straightened. I can just never get it looking "settled" when I leave it curly/wavy.

Yeah people who haven't known me a lopng time are shocked when they discover just how naturally curly my hair is - and it just so thick and so much of it.

ohhh yep... I totally hear ya

This has been a constant repurchase for ages now - I have tried the one for thicker hair but actually found it no different for me than the normal one which also so comes in a bigger bottle so I get that hehe. It's lasts me a good - 4 months maybe?

You too can have salon hair, every day *hair flip*

Have you got a list of ingredients? This sounds ineresting!

Ingredients?

Ingredients?

Just so I can see what is in it, I have not looked at it before so I have no idea if it has got "cones" in or not! :rollthoseeyes:

Cones? Umm ok, no idea sorry!

Whats cones?

silicone etc etc. I would check mine but can't get up off the couch. Did my neck in yesterday.... ouchies :redcheeks:

Ohhh ok - I hear cones I think marajuana.

Ohhh ok - I hear cones I think marajuana.

duuuuuuuuuuuuuude

:chuckle: I think that too, but in the context of the "conditioner" thread I translated.... :chuckle:

I think I am a bad influence here, what with the "massager" thread and now moving onto cones! :chuckle:

Good job a few people know what I'm on about really :hugs::chuckle:

silicone etc etc. I would check mine but can't get up off the couch. Did my neck in yesterday.... ouchies :redcheeks:

You need Gilly to send you Sven. I mean .......... Luke:whipcrack:

I haven't shampooed my hair for like 2 weeks now. My hair feels fab!! So soft and healthy. Happy hair!

I will do a shampoo tonight though I think, just 'cause.

I just cannot bring myself to do this conditioner only thing...............

I just cannot bring myself to do this conditioner only thing...............

Me either, my hair is super thick and i just can't get my head around conditioner only.

It works so well! For me anyway, I wouldn't work for everyone. I wouldn't recommend it for someone with super oily hair, but for dry hair like mine it has worked wonders. Think of it as using a cream cleanser instead of a foaming one.

You need Gilly to send you Sven. I mean .......... Luke:whipcrack:

:chuckle::whipcrack:

It works so well! For me anyway, I wouldn't work for everyone. I wouldn't recommend it for someone with super oily hair, but for dry hair like mine it has worked wonders. Think of it as using a cream cleanser instead of a foaming one.
I am so glad you are getting on well with it VeeE:clapping:

The only way to find out if it will work is to have a go!

Go on be brave, try it, you might like it!
:whipcrack:

Ok, I'll do it.

You need Gilly to send you Sven. I mean .......... Luke:whipcrack:

:chuckle::chuckle: A girl can dream

:chuckle::chuckle: A girl can dream

Dream on...I'm not letting Luke go that easily!!! :chuckle::chuckle: :whipcrack:

Ive been doing it and my hair feels soft but its breaking and im losing more? :shakehead:

Ive been doing it and my hair feels soft but its breaking and im losing more? :shakehead:

Don't worry too much :hugs: If you have been using shampoos and conditioners etc with silicones in this may be the reason. If you have clarified and gone onto "washing" with a silicone free conditioner, you are now seeing the "real" condition of your hair as you will have got rid of all the silicone coating from your hair, just do some deep treatments but make sure the products DON'T have any silicones as they will just coat it again, I was told by a hairdresser that sometimes it can take weeks to get rid of long term silicone use, that's a bit scary!! :chuckle:
I read the ingredients of everything I put on my hair, sometimes it takes me ages before I pick one!! :chuckle:

I did this for 3 days, but my hair was an oily mess!

I did this for 3 days, but my hair was an oily mess!

What conditioner did you use for this?
Also how did you do it? I found out that getting the technique right took a few goes for me!!

Ok so just washed without any shampoo!

i went to do it & realised my bloody conditioner has dimethicone in it , I'll have to get some on the w/e , any tips on what u get Gilly ?

i went to do it & realised my bloody conditioner has dimethicone in it , I'll have to get some on the w/e , any tips on what u get Gilly ?

Pears is really good, cheap and easy to find, make sure you get the one for normal hair or the clarifying one, you don't want anything that is for extra body or volume!
Aldi 5 stars is another favourite.
I think Sukin is ok if a bit thick.

Loola, did you give your hair a good massage and did you get the "squeak"?

Yeah I massages so much I almost hit on myself. Got bit of a squeal as well.

Am I ok to put in my leave in stuff ? I'm still sitting here turban style.

Yeah I massages so much I almost hit on myself. Got bit of a squeal as well.

Am I ok to put in my leave in stuff ? I'm still sitting here turban style.


Sorry to keep you waiting!!

As long as they don't have any silicones in, you should be fine!!

thanks Gilly

I like the Sukin. I will keep buying this!

I like the Sukin. I will keep buying this!

It has a pretty bottle so I am going to try this one :chuckle: