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Lady Allison (Staff)
17-10-2006, 12:20 PM
A blokes' approach to beauty
By Allison Browning (beauty expert)

Ok guys, it’s time to clean up your act! Grooming is not just for girls. I know that the traditional packaging of skin and body care products has been pretty scary, pink and apricot coloured containers certainly don’t look very manly in the bathroom cabinet.

Things have certainly changed since the days of pretty fragranced cosmetics in fancy bottles. Cosmetic companies have finally cottoned on to the fact that guys need bloke-friendly skin care. There are now ranges especially for men with shaving kits and ingrown hair solutions, plus skincare products like eye gels and moisturisers designed just for male skin.

But first, let's address some of the grooming myths you might have grown up with!

Myth 1: Aftershave (as in alcohol-based men’s fragrance) is good to close the pores after shaving.
I think the "no pain no gain" philosophy is the source of this one-“the stinging means it’s doing something!”. Unfortunately this is not the case. Alcohol-based aftershaves can dry out and irritate the skin and make the skin photosensitive - i.e. more prone to pigmentation (dark blotches). Use a toner and then moisturizer to balance the skin instead! There are also plenty of cream-based aftershave products that are much better equipped to soothe the sting of shaving.


Myth 2: Moisturiser is for girls.
Not the case at all. Both male and female skin is composed of the same matter, and we all age; therefore we all need to treat our skin to moisturiser every day. Men’s skin actually gets some pretty harsh treatment with daily shaving (well perhaps the weekly shave for some of you blokes). A good toner and moisturizer can actually soothe the skin after shaving, leaving the pores and skin moist, less red and irritated and very kissable. To really impress, use a lip balm too!

Myth 3: who needs exfoliants anyway?
Exfoliating is an essential for men’s skin. Firstly it means that your moisturizer is able to be absorbed deeper into your skin as it is not ‘sucked up’ by superficial dead skin cells. Exfoliation is also a key step in preventing ingrown hairs, it can assist in lifting the growth that is trapped beneath the skin’s surface; and because we are clearing away dead skin cells there is less surface build up on the skin to cause the ingrowns! You will also find that regular exfoliating will make your skin feel a lot smoother and give it a healthy glow.

Myth 4: I only need to wear sunscreen at the beach.
No no no! I get so many emails from people who have neglected their sun protection and now have dark blotchy patches of pigmentation. The Australian sun is particularly harsh; but in any climate, the sun’s rays are not only cancerous but speed up the ageing process and cause pigmentation. Every skin routine should at least involve a daily cleanse, moisturize, eye cream and sunblock on top! If this seems like too many steps, you can get a moisturiser and sunscreen in one, such as Ultraceuticals Protective Daily Moisturiser SPF30+.

Myth 5: Cheap haircare, skincare and shaving products are just as good.
I am, for the most part, a believer that you get what you pay for and the proof is right there in the pudding - just read the ingredients listings and compare for yourself. Generally you will find that the cheap brands contain very basic synthetic ingredients. High quality skin care, shaving and hair care products will generally contain more active ingredients, botanical extracts and less irritating bases. You only get one body, so you may as well take good care of it!

Myth 6: If I can’t see results in a week, it’s not working.
Unfortunately skin is not like the backyard- you can’t just fix it all in a few days like they do in "Backyard Blitz"! Those wrinkles took years to get there, so they ain't going anywhere in a week I’m afraid. I always recommend that clients stick with a product or skin program for an absolute minimum of three months to begin to see results. Cellular turnover takes 28 days for new skin cells to reach the skin’s surface, so we are certainly going to have to give our poor pressured skin some time to keep up with our demands. Good things come to those who wait, so be patient!

Myth 7: Soap makes my skin feel squeaky-clean so it must be good.
Sorry boys - the facts will back me up on this one. The pH of our skin sits at 5.5 usually which means we have an acid pH. This "acid mantle" is essential for our skin’s ability to protect itself. Most major brands of soap researched had a pH of 9-10 making them very alkaline. This means that soap strips our skin’s protective barrier leaving it dry and exposed. A good cleanser will clean the skin just as well as soap does, without the drying effects - and generally with foaming and gel cleansers you get a two-in-one as you’ll find you’ll be able to shave with it too - Bargain!

For more on this article: http://www.adorebeauty.com.au/adorebeauty/askallison_blokes.asp

Lady Allison (Staff)
31-10-2006, 10:31 AM
hey gals and guys...

no one has commented on this article yet- we put in in becasuse we thought it would help all you guys and also the boyfriends of you gals using the forum...

get your boys into a good skin care routine gals!

jaime
31-10-2006, 11:08 AM
I have tried so hard to get bf to start looking after his skin better! He is very stubborn and still thinks its for pansy's. I even have to force him to put on suncream!!! :(

Kate (Staff)
31-10-2006, 11:15 AM
Hee hee... my partner used to be very anti-skincare etc... now he uses cleanser, exfoliator, serums, moisturiser, even a bit of fake tan sometimes!

jaime
31-10-2006, 11:19 AM
Having said that, thanks for all the info Allison... not much is written down these days regarding skin care for men etc...Maybe if I keep trying he might change his mind! :p

Lady Allison (Staff)
31-10-2006, 11:21 AM
they don't realise they age too!

If I am going to care for myself and ensure I look fabulous at 60 I would hope my man would take an interest too!

often you can share some of the same products- it doesn't have to be complicated for the boys, I usually start them off simple and then they get addicted! :)

jaime
31-10-2006, 11:24 AM
Yeah I usually only have to plant the idea in his head - first he objects and then starts thinking about it more, and then it becomes his brillian idea...
Hats off to you Kate, you've done well to get him to use all those products!

Kate (Staff)
31-10-2006, 11:31 AM
I just leave things hanging around in the bathroom... eventually he gets curious enough to say "what's that for?" ;)

Holly
03-11-2006, 05:27 PM
Hi,
In keeping with the current theme my boyfriend tries - bless his soul - to use skincare but doesnt really know where to start so i feel it is up to me. Is there any advice out there for a good basic skincare range with cleanser, exfoliant, toner, moisturiser (with sunscreen ofcourse so he doesnt get to haggard looking while i look radiant with my ole henriksen). he has a great L'occitane shaving cream which he loves but relies on supermarket stuff a bit too much i think.

Lady Allison (Staff)
03-11-2006, 05:37 PM
a few basics that get a great response and a really easy to use:

ultraceuticals gentle cleasing gel

protective daily moisturiser 30+( for day time)

ACE treatment cream (for night time- or under the protective daily moisturiser during the day if he wants extra moisture and vitamin treatment)

that is a super basic start- let me know if you need more help!
x

Luisa Brown
03-11-2006, 11:16 PM
Despite being wrapt up in my own skincare routine, my husband wasnt all that interested. He has been religated to the laundry (albeit a nice large one!) as there is just not enough room in our (enormous) bathroom for his stuff too, so he doesnt really come into contact with my stuff (thank goodness!). That said, he now uses a cleanser, scrub, anti-aging moisturiser and sunscreen. Havent got him using eye products yet although he likes being pampered with a facial (cant remember the last time I gave him one though!). The ones he has enjoyed the most are Lancome Homme, Biotherm for men and Clarins. Well priced "masculine" ones include Natio for men (they do an ok smelling after shave balm too) and L'oreal - after all, cant have him eating into my beauty budget eh??;)

jaime
27-03-2007, 03:10 PM
Well I was sucessful in 'grooming' my man on the weekend. And when I say groom I mean WAXED!! Haha that was an experience. I only did the bits of hair he has on the back of his neck, not much there to start off with, but I don't think he will be letting me near him again in the near future. I think he now has a whole new respect for me when I get my bikini waxed.

He has also managed to graduate from using everyday soap on his face, to occasionally using the Cetaphil I casually left in the shower.

precious_star
27-03-2007, 07:41 PM
Well i suggested a few things to my boy while in our local department store on the weekend, like an anti-ageing L'oreal men's moisturiser for night use (i knew id have no chance if i suggested something expensive) and to upgrade his daily moisturiser to an SPF30.

Oh no, no..he basically told me i was crazy right then and there! He says hes fine, he wont age cos hes got his SPF15 daily moisturiser ha ha

I think they only way is for me to buy it for him...:flames: and since he works away from home all week, no such chance of even a simple unisex eye cream dammit!

jaime
27-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Me thinks its an ongoing war. I guess its just not a priority for them. My boy is originally from a country farm so I don't think there is a hope in hell. One day he might start using moisturiser.... one day

raspberryberet
27-03-2007, 08:35 PM
No luck with my pardner on the skincare front. He thinks it makes him break out. I've explained about all the different products, finding the right one, good blokes stuff out there etc. Still a firm no. Prefers to let the "natural oils" take care of things, oh such the expert. There's good oil and bad oil, I tells you!

However has no qualms using any (or should I say ALL) of my hair products and expensive shampoos & conditioners. Grrrrrr.

annaflossy
27-03-2007, 09:16 PM
I'm still trying with my man, I have taken to standing outside the shower and not letting him get out until he's cleansed his face. It's a bit of a battle but I think there's been a breakthrough - he voluntarily packedthe L'Oreal moisturiser that I bought him and took it overseas on his holiday! I was impressed.

Like you RBB I have the problem with the hair products usage. Nearly had a heart attack when I discovered how much shampoo and conditioner he was using each time!! :shockedhair:

Luisa Brown
27-03-2007, 10:29 PM
My hubby on the other hand has totally embraced skin care!

He uses a foaming cleanser in the shower, exfolient, moisturiser, eye cream and sunscreen! He is 47 but could easily pass for 35! Recently at the Motor Show he stumbled on the Loreal stand where they were giving away freebies. The consultant there slapped some moisturiser on his face and said "ooh, finallly someone who looks after their skin"!!

raspberryberet
27-03-2007, 10:38 PM
Never knew cars and skincare could mix so well!

Luisa Brown
27-03-2007, 10:41 PM
Never knew cars and skincare could mix so well!

Mmm, neither did I. Didnt question him about what they were wearing (or not!). Seems a little unnecessary that they had to actually "try" the moisturiser on his facial skin?!!

raspberryberet
27-03-2007, 10:52 PM
But how could they resist such clean, gently buffed, hydrated, sun-protected, young-looking skin?? Can you blame them?? He brought it on himself!! :chuckle:

Luisa Brown
27-03-2007, 11:04 PM
But how could they resist such clean, gently buffed, hydrated, sun-protected, young-looking skin?? Can you blame them?? He brought it on himself!! :chuckle:

Hee hee! Bet he just loved all the attention! :shakehead: His skin does look terrific though!

Medusa
28-03-2007, 11:10 PM
have the problem with the hair products usage. Nearly had a heart attack when I discovered how much shampoo and conditioner he was using each time!! :shockedhair:
Yeah what is with that?!!! They have got like an inch of hair & yet use the same amount I use on my nearly waist length hair???

I've had to get my boy all his own products & it has done wonders for his skin. Still nagging about the sunscreen but but getting a moisterriser with built in SPF did the trick. Eye cream is the next target but its going to be hard. He thinks that if he just rubs the moisteriser into his eyes that's enough. :rolleyes:

:yelling: Also like the hair products my boy is very generous with any product in fact. He goes thru things at least 5 times faster than I do. I've watched him & he not only massages cream into his face but also the rest of his body too! maybe I should make away of the actual cost?

rubisco
30-03-2007, 06:05 PM
Lol how funny, it really is a perpetual struggle!... I was recently told off for suggesting some skin care purchases to my boy in public... "shhh people will think i'm gay!" :chuckle: funny he won't buy his own, but he'll certainly borrow my Alpha H when he thinks I'm not looking!

jaime
30-03-2007, 06:09 PM
Oh lord! What is it with them thinking looking after their skin makes them gay?? My boy says the same thing, along with 'stop swearing at me' lol

Toastie
30-03-2007, 06:15 PM
With my ex boyfriend there was the conundrum of him having perfect skin so not seeing why he should use any skincare. I begged him to please stop using soap on his face but I just didn't have an argument to back me up!

Celeste(Staff)
04-04-2007, 12:20 PM
With my ex boyfriend there was the conundrum of him having perfect skin so not seeing why he should use any skincare. I begged him to please stop using soap on his face but I just didn't have an argument to back me up!

Oh the same with my ex! But he did use his sister's Body Shop scrubs in the shower and her body butters! He picked me up one morning and I jumped in the car and said 'what is that smell?' He was grinning from ear to ear and explained he was wearing coconut body butter! It was reallllly funny and he smelt good enough to eat!

Ozlicious
23-04-2007, 11:25 PM
My Mum told me today that her partner wears bronzer!!! He takes it with him whenever he travels and even has his own kabuki brush!!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

I'll never let him live it down!

charismatic
23-04-2007, 11:31 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Ozkat you have reminded me, one of my clients is around 40 and quite good looking. He is immaculately dressed and is extremely stylish, but, he wears really excessive sunless tan and his manicured nails feature top coat. Surprisingly he is not gay, just really vain.
:chuckle: :chuckle:

Ozlicious
23-04-2007, 11:52 PM
Hahaha!! I sort of feel sorry for guys though - I for one like a guy to be soorrrrtt of groomed, but definitely not to wear makeup. It's a fine line for the poor guys to tread, really.

Luisa Brown
25-04-2007, 11:13 AM
A mainstream skincare company producing a concealer for men? Read on...

http://www.cosmeticsdesign-europe.com/news/printNewsBis.asp?id=75988

fusspot
25-04-2007, 12:36 PM
after all my years in this field & my own dabbling ,hubby is yet to embrace [though have managed with my little bro] wait for it - u will die he shaves in the shower with NOTHING
:shockedhair: :shockedhair: :shockedhair:
we have been together for nearly 13 yrs & i have all but given up:(

jaime
25-04-2007, 12:47 PM
haha fusspot sounds like our men are the same - although my boy does use shave cream, he washes his face with soap. I too have given up.

raspberryberet
25-04-2007, 12:49 PM
[though have managed with my little bro]:(

Same with me fusspot! Pardner adamant, but little bro is a devotee. He cleanses and moisturises twice a day AND wears sunscreen. Who'd thunk it, when he was being such a bratty boy when we were growing up? All hail manly skincare!

Toastie
09-05-2007, 05:07 PM
*bump*

My boy gets red bumps on his neck after he shaves. He uses the Gillette shaving cream for senstive skin but I'd like to get him something a little better. I printed off the shaving tips from the mens grooming section and I would order him the American Crew stuff (because I like the look of it) but I sort of need to get him something today. I couldn't find American Crew in DJ's and Canberra is a bit sparse for brands etc.

So I was thinking of looking at Aesop or something? Or the brand that makes Alchemy? Does anybody have any suggestions or recommendations?

Thanks!

Lady Allison (Staff)
09-05-2007, 05:10 PM
we mail order!!

$5.50 flat rate for as much as you want... no fuss and we have tons of men's brands

bargain!

:glee:

ChrisW
11-07-2007, 11:42 AM
I have been using this Clearisil daily face wash a few weeks now, and I found it was nice to have such clean skin when I used it, which was twice a day, but it didn't help existing pimples to heal. I have nearly run out of it so I waas wondering what would be a relatively cheap cleanser and treatment system which would give me clear skin? I have a program from Alison, but hence me quitting my old job, I can't afford the products at the moment, so a cheap system which would help my skin clear up would be great.

Thanks guys.

Lady Allison (Staff)
11-07-2007, 11:50 AM
Hi Chris,

I can modify the program for you to simplify it and make it budget consious. Better that than have so-so products.

you can post me in the 'ask allison section' with the program I prescribed and we can modify it for you.

:penguin:

Medusa
11-07-2007, 04:42 PM
*bump*

My boy gets red bumps on his neck after he shaves. He uses the Gillette shaving cream for senstive skin but I'd like to get him something a little better. I printed off the shaving tips from the mens grooming section and I would order him the American Crew stuff (because I like the look of it) but I sort of need to get him something today. I couldn't find American Crew in DJ's and Canberra is a bit sparse for brands etc.

So I was thinking of looking at Aesop or something? Or the brand that makes Alchemy? Does anybody have any suggestions or recommendations?

Thanks!
My boy loves Viva La Soap's Shave Soap and he is quite sensitive to red bumps.
Its a solid soap in a tin so you need a badger brush too, which helps to exfoliate at the same time. I looked up the site & it says that Myer in Canberra Civic is a stockist. Cheap & lasts a long time.
http://www.vivalasoap.com/index.htm

Dipal
13-07-2007, 10:56 PM
Hello everybody,
I dont have much problem with my skin, but lips seems to crack all year around. I tried all sort of lips balm but without any success. Alison do you have anything for me which is not very expensive and glossy !!

Cheerio

fusspot
14-07-2007, 08:26 AM
i love the combo of shizen lip serum & lip conditioner - great stuff :worship:

Lady Allison (Staff)
17-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Hello everybody,
I dont have much problem with my skin, but lips seems to crack all year around. I tried all sort of lips balm but without any success. Alison do you have anything for me which is not very expensive and glossy !!

Cheerio

Hey!

I love the nuxe lip balm for super nourishment. It lasts FOREVER and is not glossy (I think that's what you were saying- that you didn't want it to be glossy). Anyways, it stays on and really nourishes. Try GENTLY exfoliating your lips with your toothbrush too and then apply!

oh the link to the balm is here: http://www.adorebeauty.com.au/adorebeauty/viewItem.asp?idproduct=5050